From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Aug 08 17:13:58 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20341 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2000 00:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Aug 2000 00:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.191) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2000 00:13:58 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:13:57 -0700 Received: from 200.42.118.182 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.118.182] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Questions Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:13:57 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2000 00:13:57.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6334770:01C00196] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3883 la ivAn cusku di'e >What if you're asking how old a baby is, and the answer is going >to be expressed in months, weeks or days rather than years? >Should you reformulate the question accordingly? (Some natlangs >do, others do not.) Yes, of course: {ta masti ma}, {ta jeftu ma}, {ta djedi ma}. Also, it is possible to answer with fractional numbers if it's less than a year. And of course you can always answer {ta masti li papa} to a question like {ta nanca ma}. > > As I see it, the duration of the referent of {mi} is > > from my birth to now. My past experiences are certainly > > a part of what I am. I can't say the same about the future, > > This from the same person who was looking for full >symmetry between the past and the future in the {za'o} thread. There is no contradiction, I never denied the differences between future and past. Besides, I am not the same person I was back then in the {za'o} thread... :) > > so I think it is ok to treat my present self as lasting > > from my birth till now. > >Arguably, though, you weren't your present self before you had >those experiences, so your present self lasts but this moment. My present self contains those moments. My then self was of course younger, as it did not contain the moments that came later on. Growing older is like growing in size, you build on what is there, you don't completely replace it with something new. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com