From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Aug 07 20:16:25 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29125 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2000 03:16:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Aug 2000 03:16:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.145) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2000 03:16:24 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:16:21 -0700 Received: from 200.42.119.14 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.119.14] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] le te renvi pe la maikl Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 03:16:21 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2000 03:16:21.0403 (UTC) FILETIME=[0691AEB0:01C000E7] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3869 la xod cusku di'e >"ma nanca" = "How many years?" which can apply to duration of >anything. Right, just like {renvi}}. The difference is that {te renvi} is duration against or in spite of an opposition, {se renvi}. >"te renvi" doesn't leave the subject to context but expressly >says "how long have you lived for?" I don't see how you figure that out. {renvi} is no more specifically about the duration of life than {nanca} is, as far as I can tell. > > i do ka'e spuda lu tu'a li 33 li'u i ku'i lu renvi fi li 33 li'u > > na drani > >na drani ni'i ma .i ro jimpe le te merli i se jimpe na nibli le cu drani i pe'i di'u se jimpe i ku'i li'a na drani co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com