From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Tue Aug 08 12:45:29 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8001 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2000 19:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Aug 2000 19:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO f19.egroups.com) (10.1.2.136) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2000 19:45:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.105] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2000 19:45:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:45:26 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: Beyond Whorf: "things," "qualities," and the origin of nouns and adjectives Message-ID: <8mpo0m+6evp@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <398FB302.E3B6D3E5@math.bas.bg> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 694 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3880 --- In lojban@egroups.com, Ivan A Derzhanski wrote: > Logically, yes. Here is an exegesis of my associations: {ninba} > has {ba} (Russian _ba_ `granny' (abbreviated address form), Japanese > _b=E2_ `grandmother', Vietnamese _b=E0_ dto.) where {ninmu} has {mu} > (Chinese {mu3} `mother', German _Mu(tter)_ dto.); so {ninba} is to > {ninmu} as `grandmother' is to `mother'. >=20 > There is also a syn=E6sthetic effect: Italian _bimba_ `female child' > notwithstanding, [b] makes a word sound old, big and heavy to me. _baby_ (!) _bakazana baenda_ (the *girls* are *walking*) :))) But: _balawu babaluma bantu_ (the - big? - *lions* bit the - fat? - men) :((( .aulun.