Date: 15 Sep 2000 19:03:03 -0000
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To: lojban@egroups.com
In-reply-to: <67.9a2a62b.26f3c402@aol.com> (pycyn@aol.com)
Subject: Re: [lojban] RE:rape, etc.
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From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <mark@kli.org>
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>From: pycyn@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:27:14 EDT
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>In a message dated 00-09-15 12:48:19 EDT, ken writes:
>
><< As a non-professional philosopher, I could point out that, if you spread 
> your legs, you are giving permission, and I would also say that
> applies whether or not someone is holding a gun to your head. >>
>Thanks.  I'm not sure that I would go that far down the line about where 
>permission  occurs, but it does help to make the point about the difference 
>between permission and consent that I was looking for.  So the etymology has 
>a role here, pointing to the notion of willing agreement with the intention 
>of the act, which is lacking in the forced cases.  So what does Lojban have 
>to offer here?  Note: {tugni} is no help.

This was exactly the journey I went through before asking the question
here.  I realized {tugni} was NOT what we wanted.

~mark