Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23029 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 16:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Sep 2000 16:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 16:05:50 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id a.3a.a07e0be (3952) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3a.a07e0be.26e7c555@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:05:41 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: emacs, etc. To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 4264 Content-Length: 1557 Lines: 23 I'm not arguing that MS is not conspiracious and perhaps even more so than most other companies (though your remarks don't indicate that -- ever try to repair a Ford with GM parts?). I am saying that they were aided and abetted in this conspiracy by almost all other software vendors and (perhaps especially) by the free-lance programming community. If that community had a better product, as they very likely did in the early days of Windows and even MSDOS, they should have pushed for its adoption rather than sitting back and esoterically working on toward perfection in every detail in little cells hither and yon around the world. Much of the condemnation of MS is sour grapes, a convenient excuse for people who did not have the gumption to get their own system out into the competition, for fear it would be rejected by the great unwashed (as it might well have been, given the bell and whistles many of them had in place of useful features). And now, having lost (or pretty much given up) the battle they continue to perpetuate their "superiority" by refusing to do anything else for the unwashed, preferring to perfect yet more jewels for the elect -- and grumble that they can't make a living at it. I just suggest that they might -- particularly within a collegial project like Lojban -- consider those outside the cabal occasionally and design something for general use -- Windows, DOS, even OS, if being uncliquish is too much a problem. By the bye, if Windows hadn't won, I doubt that Linux would be free.