From xod@sixgirls.org Thu Oct 19 14:08:26 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_1_0); 19 Oct 2000 21:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13830 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2000 21:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Oct 2000 21:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO erika.sixgirls.org) (209.208.150.50) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2000 21:08:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by erika.sixgirls.org (8.11.0+3.3W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9JL8NF15500 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: literalism [was: Re: [lojban] Re: looking at arjlujv.txt In-Reply-To: <8snn9d+v19k@eGroups.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 4597 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Alfred W. Tueting (T=FCting) wrote: > I'm all other than sure about this well-sounding statement: there are > real horrible-looking (-sounding) lujvo monsters, maybe=20 > only appropriate for silly machines (sometimes worse than Assembler > encoded text). > I'm pleading for short-/conciseness rather than pedantic > descriptiveness. (That doesn't mean that I do not agree with xorxes. > to=20 > "respect" the places, or with maikl. to avoid fancy metaphors). Lujvo > should be "convincing" from their meaning and concise to=20 > keep them in memory (they should become "lokshe"). Lujvo are not as commonly needed as is commonly thought. There should be a lujvo for toothbrush, but do we need one for rapist? "Rapist", recalling the long discussions held recently, fought by about 5 equally valid and conflicting positions, is a word that cries out for a specific tanru when it is introduced into a discussion. Rather than isolate the canonical definition among the several closely-related yet different choices offered during the debate, a tanru would specify the exact spin desired.=20 ----- It takes a lot of work to realize how little work it takes=20 to achieve Slack.