From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Wed Nov 01 08:21:36 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 1 Nov 2000 16:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 30163 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 16:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Nov 2000 16:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 16:18:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.2.25] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2000 16:18:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 16:18:38 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: doi cevrirni ... Message-ID: <8tpfou+k7pa@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20001031222607.B159@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1314 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 4780 --- In lojban@egroups.com, Richard Curnow wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 12:32:31PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > > > .i ga'inai mi na jimpe le nu pilno zo vi'e > > ko'a goi la cevzda ku joi la ter. roda peca'o ko'a rode pene'i ko'a zo'u > zo vi'e cu cmavo fi le du'u le cevni se djica cu fasnu ca da vi de > > (Letting "it" mean Heaven & Earth together, "vi'e" is a word meaning > that God's will happens at all times within "it" and at all places > within "it") As for me, I don't have problems with the use of {vi'e} in this context - rather than with your explanation in *Lojban* ;-( ".i le do nobli turni be la ter. ku se cfari"??? {le do nobli turni} doesn't seem to mean "your reign" nor "your reigning", but something like "your * ruler/governor/sovereign* ", whatever this means! (It's the x1-place of turni tru govern x1 governs/rules/is ruler/governor/sovereign!) I also found the lujvo {noltru} as "reign/rule" (obviously a verb and not a noun - otherwise it were mal-formed!) {le du/mu'e do nobli turni be la ter. ku ...}? {se cfari} ??? {... cu/ba cfari} ! x1 [state/event/process] commences/initiates/starts/begins to occur; (intransitive verb) ! ".i loi do se djica ..." ??? {.i loi se djica do} or {.i le/lo/loi du'u do djica} ? .aulun.