From araizen@newmail.net Fri Nov 03 02:47:21 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 3 Nov 2000 10:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3174 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 10:47:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Nov 2000 10:47:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (212.150.51.26) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 10:47:20 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.182.139]) by out.newmail.net ; Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:48:48 +0200 To: lojban@egroups.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:47:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Re: Re: month names Reply-to: araizen@newmail.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: <973177491.9543@egroups.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <97328452801@out.newmail.net> From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 4795 Pierre Abbat wrote: > >July la jukma'i > > "jukni" by itself is "spider", not "crab". Crabs aren't arachnids; the division > into insects and non-insect arthropods doesn't make sense taxonomically. > > >November la jukrskorpio masti > > rebjukma'i? not sure how to say "sting" 'batci' or maybe 'bikla'. Maybe 'batci se rebla jukni', but 'la batselrebjukma'i' is starting to get long. "batyjukni" might be specific enough (though I suppose crabs might batci also.) Are scorpions the only arachnids that sting, or sting with their tail? How about selja'ujukni for crab/lobster? (July la selja'ujukma'i) Maybe the classification doesn't strictly make sense, but it's the official definition. While lojban generally sticks to the scientific classification, there are times when it deviates a slightly like this to save gismu space. > Also, the signs don't coincide with the months. But they're close. We could argue over exactly which corresponds to which, but the system is no doubt going to be as unofficial and poetic/fanciful as every other non-number system mentioned. In modern Hebrew, the western zodiac signs are often mapped to Hebrew months (I can't remember exactly which to which, but I've seen it a few times (probably libra = tishrei)) which is at least as inexact as this system. co'o mi'e adam