From olivera@macs.biu.ac.il Wed Feb 14 14:42:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: olivera@macs.biu.ac.il X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 14 Feb 2001 22:42:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 96768 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 22:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2001 22:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunbeam.cs.biu.ac.il) (132.70.1.24) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Feb 2001 23:43:24 -0000 Received: from sunshine (olivera@sunshine [132.70.1.6]) by sunbeam.cs.biu.ac.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24375 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:42:16 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:42:13 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: olivera@sunshine To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Introducing Myself (and, le brojbogri) In-Reply-To: <3A8AFC8C.9E3EAC0A@acmenet.net> Message-ID: X-Organization: Math & CS department MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Avital Oliver X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 5485 coi rodo .i FYI, I live in Israel. Now, the story. I've known Lojban for around three years - after I started searching on planned/constructed/logical languages, since my friend told me about, , Esperanto. Lojban quite interested me almost immediately, but because of my partial lack of free time/willpower, I didn't get much far in studying Lojban (I remembered the meaning of tavla! =). A few weeks ago, I started getting re-interested in Lojban, this time more seriously. So, I'm working on logflash every day, and reading (slowly but surely) the reference grammer. I also realized that by finding a group of friends which are also interested in learning Lojban, I will be able to both spread the word of Lojban, and give myself additional incentive to learn it. So, I found a group of friends, told them a bit about Lojban, and (with the help of my two good friends - Sapir and Whorf) persuaded them to learn Lojban too. So, now, I'm trying to start weekly or bi-weekly meetings to study lojban with this new group (le brojbogri). I'm hoping to give more stress on vocabulary and basic grammer (enough for conversation), than to enter all the nuances of the grammer (and I'm staying as far away as possible from teh BNF grammer). I believe arguing nonstop about grammatical issues is good - Lojban needs to be different than other languages in the way that its grammer is the best it can be at a given moment; but still, that is not what will cause people to actually talk the language. So, I wanted to know if you people can give me some advice on how to organize these meetings/lessons - what to teach, how to let people learn vocabulary... I thought I can use the pre-defined order in LogFlash and teach by that, each week telling people, 'learn the next N words until next meeting', and then attempting to use those words in real conversation/reading/writing. Any help will do, and I do believe that if this group will be serious enough, we can reach good Lojban knowledge within months. Good day, Avital Oliver.