From pycyn@aol.com Sat Feb 10 07:05:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 15:05:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 87586 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 15:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 15:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 15:05:39 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.57.1166baff (4593) for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:05:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <57.1166baff.27b6b2be@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:05:34 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: kau To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_57.1166baff.27b6b2be_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 5373 --part1_57.1166baff.27b6b2be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2001 4:23:16 AM Central Standard Time, Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes: > co'o mi'e *la* .aulun. > (BTW, don't you think that "la" is necessary with names to indicate that it > isn't just the name/label etc. itself but a person referred > to by it?) > Nope, not in this case. {mi'e} is used to introduce the label to be applied to the speaker, not to introduce the speaker, and that label is "aulun" The {la} is needed in other contexts to show its function there, as a sumti, but here the label is mentioned, not used. --part1_57.1166baff.27b6b2be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2001 4:23:16 AM Central Standard Time,
Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes:


co'o mi'e *la* .aulun.
(BTW, don't you think that "la" is necessary with names to indicate that it
isn't just the name/label etc. itself but a person referred
to by it?)

Nope, not in this case.  {mi'e} is used to introduce the label to be applied
to the speaker, not to introduce the speaker, and that label is "aulun"  The
{la} is needed in other contexts to show its function there, as a sumti, but
here the label is mentioned, not used.
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