From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Fri Mar 30 08:12:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 16:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23573 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 16:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 16:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 16:12:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.93] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2001 16:12:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:11:55 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: the reason for x4 of {djuno}? Message-ID: <9a2b8b+kvcb@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1220 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "A.W.T." X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6325 --- In lojban@y..., "Jorge Llambias" wrote: > > la aulun cusku di'e > > >There's > >only *one* world the user of language live in, and *one* truth! > > Yes, "there is one truth, even if nobody knows what it is" > sounds less metaphorical than "there are a myriad conflicting > truths, and everybody knows their own". > Well, I can't imagine the x4 of djuno (and x2 of jetnu) as being > anything other than the common epistemology that speaker and > audience must share in order to communicate successfully. Other > uses sound artificial to me, but let's see how it turns out in > practice. Interesting enough, we (the only non-WASPs, I feel, in this thread) seem to share this opinion, whereas others don't ;-) > >co'omi'e .aulun. (zo'o noi *krici* le du'u su'o ki'orgra belo bakre'u cu > >zbasu lo xamgu stasu) > > i pau le bakre'u cu zbasu gi'i te zbasu le stasu > i ji'a le bakre'u cu ki'ogra be li su'o gi'enai se ki'ogra zo'oje'e .i drani falu mi krici le du'u le ki'ogra be li su'o be'o bakre'u cu te zbasu lo xamgu stasu li'u .a lu mi krici le du'u lo bakre'u poi ki'ogra li su'o cu te zbasu lo xamgu stasu li'u .iku'i zo'o .oiro'eru'e za'onai mabla dotco ;-) .aulun.