From xod@sixgirls.org Tue Mar 20 21:46:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@shiva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Mar 2001 05:46:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 90934 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 05:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Mar 2001 05:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shiva.sixgirls.org) (206.252.141.232) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 05:46:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by shiva.sixgirls.org (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2L5l5J03460 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:47:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:47:05 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Objective Reality & krici (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6089 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la xod cusku di'e > > > > For some people believing without any evidence, even against > > > all evidence, is a virtue (faith). > > > >They get their evidence from scripture. > > Not always. The most virtuous don't need it. Then how do they become aware of God? Even the Xians teach that the Gospels must be evangelized; they don't expect the elect to receive it directly. ----- "The trees are green, since green is good for the eyes". I agreed with him, and added, that God had created cattle, since beef soups strengthen man; that he created the donkey, so that it might give man something with which to compare himself; and he had created man, to eat beef soup and not be a donkey.