From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:05:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Mar 2001 00:05:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 72444 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2001 00:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Mar 2001 00:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.7) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 01:06:10 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:05:06 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.11 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:05:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.11] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Objective Reality & krici (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances. Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:05:05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2001 00:05:06.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[C015E260:01C0B263] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6117 la xod cusku di'e >But Christ's apostles went forth to spread the Word. Why did they bother >at all? Why wasn't God's Grace enough? The ways of the Lord are mysterious, I don't have the answers for you. I am not a theologian, but from what I remember from my chatechism, even though there is plenty of evidence around that proves the existence of God, it is not at all necessary in order to believe, and those that believe without any need of evidence are the most fortunate ones. >The fool is the one who doubts after hearing the Gospel. But they have to >hear the Gospel first. It's not instinctive knowledge. I never argued that belief cannot be based on evidence, only that it need not be. John 20,29 proves it, in case you need evidence. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.