From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 06:30:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Mar 2001 14:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 55441 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 14:30:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2001 14:30:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.165) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 14:30:29 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:30:28 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:30:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances. Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:30:28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2001 14:30:28.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[79CA2EB0:01C0B213] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6097 la lojbab cusku di'e >Use jetnu for subjective truth that is observer >independent given a common epistemology, and djuno for subjective truth >that is observer dependent (this seems to be where others don't necessarily >agree with me because they don't like subjective truth to be called >"knowledge", but you can always weaken the claim by using belief as your >epistemology). You seem to be saying that you could have a situation where {ko'a djuno ko'e fo ko'i} is true and {ko'e jetnu ko'i} is false. I can't imagine how that could be possible, can you give an example? co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.