From pycyn@aol.com Mon Mar 12 11:42:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 12 Mar 2001 19:42:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 80278 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 19:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2001 19:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 20:43:43 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.86.804b6ee (17082) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:42:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <86.804b6ee.27de809d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:42:21 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] I almost caught the train To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_86.804b6ee.27de809d_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 5785 --part1_86.804b6ee.27de809d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/12/2001 11:42:21 AM Central Standard Time,=20 graywyvern@hotmail.com writes: > > As I said, fingers not work so good. Well, I neither have nor have not been a train in any interestiing sense, I= =20 suppose (Grice goo again) xorxes about the same time (on &): <>An alternative, which I haven't thought through the implications of, woul= d >be "almost P" =3D "in most relevant alternative worlds, P", and "barely >P" =3D "in most relevant alternative worlds, not P". Yes, but Lojban is no better than English at expressing this in an elegant manner.> =20 Actually, for at least one kind of altworlds Lojban has it pretty nice: the= =20 inchoative and superfective (maybe some of the others) are just that sort o= f=20 thing: in most of the relevantly similar worlds the inchoative becomes=20 initiative, the superfective has already ended. This was what I got from &= =20 in my suggestion. barely 100 =3D panono su'i so'u not quite 100 =3D panono vu'u so'u Throw in a {su'e} for safety. --part1_86.804b6ee.27de809d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/12/2001 11:42:21 AM Central Standard Time,=20
graywyvern@hotmail.com writes:
<i assume you meant PU= 'O & TU'A>
As I said, fingers not work so good.

<i'm not sure SNADA & FLIBA in that context are more than saying= :
BA'O or BA'ONAI=A0 TRENE>
Well, I neither have nor have not been a train in any interestiing sens= e, I=20
suppose (Grice goo again)

xorxes about the same time (on &):
<>An alternative, which I haven't thought through the implication= s of, would
>be "almost P" =3D "in most relevant alternative worlds, P", and "ba= rely
>P" =3D "in most relevant alternative worlds, not P".

Yes, but Lojban is no better than English at expressing this
in an elegant manner.>
=20
Actually, for at least one kind of altworlds Lojban has it pretty nice:= the=20
inchoative and superfective (maybe some of the others) are just that so= rt of=20
thing: in most of the relevantly similar worlds the inchoative becomes= =20
initiative, the superfective has already ended.  This was what I g= ot from &=20
in my suggestion.

barely 100 =3D panono su'i so'u
not quite 100 =3D panono vu'u so'u
Throw in a {su'e} for safety. --part1_86.804b6ee.27de809d_boundary--