From thanatos@dim.com Sat Mar 03 18:56:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thanatos@dim.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 4 Mar 2001 02:56:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 69682 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO supernova.dimensional.com) (206.124.0.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from p13.3c07.pm.dimcom.net (p13.3c07.pm.dimcom.net [206.124.5.77]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f242uOa01430 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:56:25 -0700 (MST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Technical Question(nitpick): Vocal Stress and Mandatory Pauses Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:58:25 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: EWC X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 5708 (Minor nitpick:) The guidelines for inserting pauses in Section 4.9 of the Refgram states that a cmavo with stress on its final syllable must by followed by a pause if the next word is a brivla. Is this really necessary if the brivla does not start with a consonant pair and its first syllable is not stressed? For example: coi lemlabno (normal written) (to zo'o mi'e .pitr. COI lemLABno (with proposed stress) cOIlemlAbno (as spoken stream) I don't see how the spoken stream could be interpreted as anything other than the original text. "coile" is not a valid brivla, so "coi" must be a cmavo and doesn't affect the following brivla. Is this correct? --=20 EWC