From rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 18 20:00:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 04:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 71839 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 04:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 04:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) (129.97.134.11) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 05:01:53 -0000 Received: (from rlpowell@localhost) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA19796 for lojban@onelist.com; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:07:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:07:36 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances. Message-ID: <20010318230736.A3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@onelist.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jjllambias@hotmail.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:57:42AM +0000 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 5959 On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:57:42AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la camgusnis cusku di'e > > >"I used to know how to change a spark plug". > > But "how to change a spark plug" is not a fact! > > mi pu kakne le nu bastygau lo . Ah. You got me. > > > Surety is not required, only truth. Do we really want a situation > > > in which A knows that G is a koala, whereas B knows that G is a > > > chimpanzee? > > > >Otherwise lack of accurate knowledge results in linguistic > >invalidity, which I don't find acceptable. > > Every sentence everyone ever utters could be false due to lack of > accurate knowledge. What is it that you don't find acceptable about > that? Nothing! I think that is exactly right and true and acceptable. But the freaking _definition_ of the lojban language says that stating something that is not true as the x2 of djuno is incorrect use of the language! > What do you mean by "linguistic invalidity"? Incorrect use of the language. -Robin -- http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. Information wants to be free. Too bad most of it is crap. --RLP