From samuelriv@yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 10:50:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: samuelriv@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Mar 2001 18:50:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 55026 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 18:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Mar 2001 18:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web3806.mail.yahoo.com) (204.71.203.177) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 18:50:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20010326185043.15415.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.12.105.34] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:50:43 PST Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:50:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: lojban- new member- Vauxzap! To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <985339739.937.54413.l10@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Samuel Rivier X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6219 Hi guys-I hope I sent this message to the right address. I just joined the group, and am starting to learn lojban right now. Before I go any further, do any of you have recommendations for great online courses in lojban? Okay, so I guess I'll tell you about myself. I'm a high school student in Chicago, and I just recently developed a major interest in linguistics. For the past 4 months now I've been researching languages, phonetics, graphology, etc, and I've been gaining conversational fluency in Esperanto. Esperanto was one of the many constructed languages that I researched, and I noticed one similarity between all of them: they all suck! It was like Doktoro Zamenhof (not a real doctor, by the way) spent 8 of the 9 years he spent creating Esperanto printing out propoganda leaflets. Then after so many pieces of crap I ran across loglan/lojban. When reading some of the introductory lessons to it I was intrigued. This language is just completely revolutionary in its construction. I don't believe in the Sapir-Wholff hypothesis, nor do I think that humans will be able to use this language mathematically, as the creators intended, but I do feel that lojban can change linguistics forever. Anyway, I gave up Esperanto because it was fundamentally flawed at the roots, and all the other languages appeared to be made by drunken schizophrenics, but lojban is worth my support, and I am deeply interested as to how the world will react to it. On another note, I've been reading through these digests and I have to say that you people are pretty damn insightful. I'm not sure if most of you are computer programmers or not. I have some familiarity with programming languages, but not much. The best I've been able to make was a hunting program similar to that in oregon trail. I also noticed a lot of discussion about linguistic philosophy, and how words express metaphysical concepts. I'm almost certain that you all have taken logic courses- I can see that I'm gonna love this group. Samuel Rivier "We have admired the stars for too long to be afraid of the night." Cosmos- Carl Sagan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/