From pycyn@aol.com Tue Apr 17 15:57:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 17 Apr 2001 22:57:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 37835 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 15:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2001 15:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 15:17:38 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.4a.146492cf (3735) for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:17:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4a.146492cf.280db87e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:17:18 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] not only To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4a.146492cf.280db87e_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6615 --part1_4a.146492cf.280db87e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/17/2001 5:08:18 AM Central Daylight Time, Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes: > I came across to express the idea of "not only" in Lojban and am not too > sure how to do: > As far I can see, there are just two ways at hand, namely somehow using > {po'o} or something with {pamei}. > Any advice? > This looks like an acute attack of leka malglico (well, malSAE, given "non solo sed etiam" from Latin I). In the language of logic (and so, presumably, in the logical language) "not only Ss are Ps" is "not all Ps are Ss". The "but also Qs are Ps" is just "and [some] Qs are P's " (with or without an "in addition" thrown in). nake ro lo se citka be lo ratcu cu cirla .ije ra [=lo ratcu] cu citka lo rectu [ji'a] nake ro lo citka lo rectu cu ratcu .ije le mlatu [ji'a] go'i --part1_4a.146492cf.280db87e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/17/2001 5:08:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes:


I came across to express the idea of "not only" in Lojban and am not too
sure how to do:
As far I can see, there are just two ways at hand, namely somehow using
{po'o} or something with {pamei}.
Any advice?

This looks like an acute attack of leka malglico (well, malSAE, given "non
solo sed etiam" from Latin I).  In the language of logic (and so, presumably,
in the logical language) "not only Ss are Ps" is "not all Ps are Ss".  The
"but also Qs are Ps" is just "and [some] Qs are P's " (with or without an "in
addition" thrown in).

nake ro lo se citka be lo ratcu cu cirla .ije ra [=lo ratcu] cu citka lo
rectu [ji'a]
nake ro lo citka lo rectu cu ratcu .ije le mlatu [ji'a] go'i --part1_4a.146492cf.280db87e_boundary--