From samuelriv@yahoo.com Mon Apr 09 20:33:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: samuelriv@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 10 Apr 2001 03:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23413 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 03:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2001 03:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web3805.mail.yahoo.com) (204.71.203.176) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 03:33:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20010410033307.21475.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.167.118.13] by web3805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:33:07 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Place notation in lojban To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <986804717.1141.9986.l10@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Samuel Rivier X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6456 I have a question regarding the original creation of lojban. It seems odd that this language designed for ease of computer interpretation would use such a complex system of place notation for gismu. I don't understand how that would be ideal if a computer would have to learn that system for each individual gismu. Wouldn't it be better to use the more naturalistic method of creating the place notation by description? Also, does lojban ever use the letter "h" (not " ' ") as a designation for a foreign phoneme, like most languages do? For example, english kh equals /x/ , english rh equals /r/ (trilled like in spanish- im using sampa), and dh equals /D/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/