From araizen@newmail.net Sun Apr 08 15:04:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 8 Apr 2001 22:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12964 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2001 22:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2001 22:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 22:04:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: araizen@newmail.net Received: from [10.1.10.125] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2001 22:04:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 22:04:29 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bible translation Message-ID: <9aqn9d+qh99@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 912 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.0.181.223 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6441 --- In lojban@y..., "Jorge Llambias" wrote: > >2) Termsets are awkward for "gapping" (when the selbri of the second > >sentence is implicitly that of the first). With termsets, the terms have > >to be next to each other (with no intervening selbri), and they also add > >extra cmavo. I believe it used to be grammatical to put a bare list of > >sumti after "ije", which would be a much easier and more natural way to > >specify gapping. > > You're right, it seems that it is no longer grammatical! > You can still do it without {je}: > > i le moklu be mi le nunmi'a cu se culno i le tance be mi > le geirselsanga > > but it is strange that you can't do it with {ije}. > It seems it came about when the scope of "ije" was reduced to allow a prenex to cover an entire conjunction of 2 complete bridi, but I'm still not sure why it can't have a list of terms. co'o mi'e adam