From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Fri Apr 27 06:30:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 27 Apr 2001 13:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 62975 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2001 13:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Apr 2001 13:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.43) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2001 13:28:17 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.252.12.137]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010427132815.YLTW283.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:28:15 +0100 To: Subject: RE: Beatles (was: RE: [lojban] Three more issues) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010424153946.00c3b370@127.0.0.1> From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 6955 Lojbab: > At 02:20 AM 04/24/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > > >Does {la bitlz} mean (a) "each of those x such that I am calling x > > 'bitlz'", > > > >or (b) "each member of the group that I am calling 'bitlz'", or (c) > > > "the thing > > > >I am calling 'bitlz'"? (a) wouldn't work, because I'm not calling Ringo > > > >'bitlz'. (c) wouldn't work, because I'm calling the group 'bitlz', and > > > >the group is not a minimal unit of person. (b) would work, but then > > > >"la bitlz cu girzu" would, undesirably, be false. > > > > > > la bitlz goi la djan joi la paul joi la djordj joi la ringos cu prenu gi'e > > > girzu > > > >ro prenu girzu na ku prenu .i > >loi se du'u ro prenu cu prenu pa mei kei pu se cusku la lojbab .i > >ro prenu su'o re mei na ku prenu pa mei > > mi cusku le sedu'u la bitlz cu gunma gunma fa ro girzu > .i lo gunma cu girzu gi'e pamei. ro gunma be su'o re broda cu gunma pa mei gi'e broda su'o re mei > .i mi na cusku tu'a ro prenu .ijeku'i cusku piro ba'e lei prenu cu prenu > gi'e girzu da poi ke'a du ga loi gerna be la lojban gi la lojbab zo'u cumki fa loi du'u la'e di'u goi ko'a jetnu da i ku'i fatci fa loi du'u ko'a to'e logji --And.