From yahoo@gdyke.org Mon May 07 06:52:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: yahoo@gdyke.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 7 May 2001 13:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 47976 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 13:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 May 2001 13:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.47) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2001 13:52:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: yahoo@gdyke.org Received: from [10.1.2.59] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2001 13:52:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:52:16 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: mi cnino cmima Message-ID: <9d69ag+30p6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1230 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.5.240.1 From: yahoo@gdyke.org X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7090 Coi le tavla be fo la lojban. .i la greg. cmene mi .i xabju la suis. .i nanla paze. And that's about as far as I'll go in lojban this time (was most of it right?). I've only been studying lojban for a week. I was wanting to translate a children's stoy which goes something in the lines of : "this is the house that jack built, this is the malt that lay in the house that jack built, this is the rat that ate the malt that lay in the house that jack built. etc." I got no further than the first sentence. Here are various possibilities: la djak. zbasu le dinju "jack built the house" (it is a building, as jack seems to have no intention of living it) le dinju co se zbasu la djak. le dinju co se zbasu be la djak. le zbasu be la djak dinju le dinju poi la djak. zbasu (is there confusion that the house may have built jack here?) le dinju poi la djak. ke'a zbasu at least two of these must mean "The house that jack built" (as a title for the story). Of those that are right, which is the most appropriate? ti zbasu be la djak. dinju le ti dinju poi la jack. zbasu ti dinju co se zbasu be la djak. Again I'm confused ; what I'm trying to say is: "this is the house that jack built." co'o greg.