From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri May 04 16:32:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 4 May 2001 23:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 50103 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 23:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 May 2001 23:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 May 2001 23:32:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jjllambias@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.30] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2001 23:32:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:32:26 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Change Message-ID: <9cve6a+sfms@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <01050218530506.01065@neofelis> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 907 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 200.41.247.49 From: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7055 la pier cusku di'e > i ku'i ci purdykurji cu cintypunji ry ja'e le nu xunre > > I thought it should be: > > i ku'i ci purdykurji cu cintygalfi ry lo xunre I guess it depends on whether you see painting as a transformation process or just as a process of putting paint onto something. > but the problem is that "galfi" is missing a place. The concept I want a word > for is "x1 changes x2 from x3 to x4". How can that be said in Lojban? {galfi} is also missing a place for the paint. {cintypunji} is a straightforward lujvo: punji be le cinta. {cintygalfi} would be more complex: galfi be sepi'o le cinta. "x1 changes x2 to x3 from x4" would follow a more standard Lojbanic order. Perhaps one could say something like: lei purdykurji cu muvgau lei rozgu le ka xunre kei le ka blabi kei le nu cintypunji ({kairmuvgau} if {muvgau} by itself is too shocking.) co'o mi'e xorxes