From xod@sixgirls.org Wed May 30 21:59:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 04:59:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 99563 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 04:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 04:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 04:59:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V4xMM07257 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:59:22 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Allah & me (was: Request for grammar clarifications In-Reply-To: <20010530124453.Y12764@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7401 On Wed, 30 May 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:31:50PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/30/2001 10:00:39 AM Central Daylight Time, > > robin@BILKENT.EDU.TR writes: > > > ro cevni du la .alax." = "Every god is identical with Allah". > > > > > > But does this really capture the sense of "la ilahi il'allah" (which I > > > assume > > > it is a translation of)? > > > > > > > Well, the formula looks to be negative ("la"), and the usual trat is "There > > is no God but Allah" so it might literally be {no da poi na du la .allax. cu > > cevni}, which, unfortunately, allows for atheism, so it is not right either > > -- for so does the cowan's version. As I was saying about quantifiers, ... > > no da poi na dunli la .alsax. du lo pa cevni > > "allah" turns out to be really hard to lojbanize. 'll' is illegal, as > is 'la'. > > Help requested. > > -Robin pycyn@aol.com wrote: > I doubt it. Every use of {me} seems to have a more natural expressions > using > {du}, possibly with {pa} if there is some doubt about quantity. .i li'acai lu ju'acai no da poi na me la .alsax. zo'u da cevni to la'e di'u ji'a cikre fi le ka na selsmuni curmi le si'o no da cevni ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!