From ragnarok@pobox.com Wed May 30 16:03:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 23:03:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 2811 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 23:03:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2001 23:03:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 23:03:52 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.34] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACA9120600BC; Wed, 30 May 2001 19:05:13 -0400 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Not a troll, just a silly post [Was Re: Enemy & Re: No number base] Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:03:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E93B.434AED20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010530150153.C12764@digitalkingdom.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7391 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E93B.434AED20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd do the bomb one as the equivalent of 'somebody installed us on the bomb,' with a cmavo missing, and it's the same as the psuedo-english. As for AYBABTU, try 'all your base (singular) (random extra cmavo) belong (plural) to me (plural).' I'm not sure, but I thought there was an optional pluralizing cmavo... -----Original Message----- From: sentto-44114-7402-991260114-ragnarok=pobox.com@returns.onelist.com [mailto:sentto-44114-7402-991260114-ragnarok=pobox.com@returns.onelist.com]O n Behalf Of Robin Lee Powell Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:02 PM To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Not a troll, just a silly post [Was Re: Enemy & Re: No number base] On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:58:54PM -0600, Jay Kominek wrote: > The two phrases are broken English. You cannot convey the same > meaning in grammatical Lojban, because the nongrammaticity of the English > is the whole point. I mean, you are laughing at the poor Japanese->English > translator who produced the sentence, right? (I don't see anything else > funny about the sentences.) True. Very true. But you could recreat them with _un_gramattical lojban. 8) Hey, Jay, how's the dictionary coming? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E93B.434AED20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd do=20 the bomb one as the equivalent of 'somebody installed us on the bomb,' with= a=20 cmavo missing, and it's the same as the psuedo-english. As for AYBABTU, try= 'all=20 your base (singular) (random extra cmavo) belong (plural) to me (plural).' = I'm=20 not sure, but I thought there was an optional pluralizing=20 cmavo...
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From:=20 sentto-44114-7402-991260114-ragnarok=3Dpobox.com@returns.onelist.com=20 [mailto:sentto-44114-7402-991260114-ragnarok=3Dpobox.com@returns.onelist.= com]On=20 Behalf Of Robin Lee Powell
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:= 02=20 PM
To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lojban] N= ot a=20 troll, just a silly post [Was Re: Enemy & Re: No number=20 base]

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:58:54PM -0600, J= ay=20 Kominek wrote:
> <imo>The two phrases are broken English. You= =20 cannot convey the same
> meaning in grammatical Lojban, because the= =20 nongrammaticity of the English
> is the whole point. I mean, you ar= e=20 laughing at the poor Japanese->English
> translator who produced= the=20 sentence, right? (I don't see anything else
> funny about the=20 sentences.)</imo>

True.  Very true.

But you coul= d=20 recreat them with _un_gramattical lojban.  8)

Hey, Jay, how's= the=20 dictionary coming?

-Robin

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http://www.digitalkingd= om.org/~rlpowell/=20       BTW, I'm male, honest.
le datni cu djic= a le=20 nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno
je xlali -- RLP=20            =20             http://www.lojban.org/

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