From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 13 16:08:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 Jun 2001 23:08:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 8852 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 23:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2001 23:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 23:08:10 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15AJk9-0004WZ-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:08:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:08:09 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Attitudinals Message-ID: <20010613160809.J14438@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7946 On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 06:58:39PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/13/2001 4:32:17 PM Central Daylight Time, > thedward@barsoom.net writes: > > Most Microsoft applications have an option to turn off "smart quotes". > > Using such advantages in a Microsoft Word document is perfectly acceptable, > > as such a document is already limited to the audience of those who > > use such products. However if you want to present professional looking > > documents in HTML it seems reasonable to abide by the standards created for > > such documents. If you want more control over presentation than is allowed > > by standard HTML, perhaps you should consider publishing in PDF. > > > > > > This is an old and tired argument, but, since most people use Microsoft > everything, shouldn't people who want to have users meet their standards > rather than asking the vast majority to conform to the miniscule minorities > inferior "standards"? Why, for example, doesn't HTML have "smart quotes"? Oh jesus fuck. Because they're not quotes!! The quotes is ". ASCII 34. Smart quotes are neither smart (they do amazingly strange things if you have more than 2 of them in a sentence) nor quotes (they're ASCII 0240 or something like that). > And one character tabs Look! ^ A one character tab! What the hell are you talking about? > and umlauts It does. > and all the rest of the useful critters an ordinary word processor > provides? Because you're not talking about an ordinary word processor, you're talking about proprietary bullshit. > In fact it does have most of them if you're willing to type a > half-dozen characters to get them; But not smart quotes, thank goth. > why not just one or two? Are you clear on the concept of 7-bit ASCII? If not, I suggest you remove yourself from this argument. -Robin, who's been on the 'net since Gopher was king and is sick of you whiny M$ lusers. He's also in a bad mood. -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/