From pycyn@aol.com Mon Jun 11 15:05:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 11 Jun 2001 22:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 72271 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 22:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2001 22:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 22:04:33 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.b0.15d30882 (4316) for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:04:32 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b0.15d30882.28569a70_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7827 --part1_b0.15d30882.28569a70_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/2001 4:09:47 PM Central Daylight Time, ragnarok@pobox.com writes: > Where can I find Whorf's writings on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis? I'm > interested in reading the original version, and have heard Sapir was > uninvolved. > The standard collection of Whorf's writings is still Language, Thought and Reality, ed. John B. Carroll, MIT/Wiley, 1956. The two stock follow-ups are Language and Culture, ed Harry Hoijer, U Chicago, 1954, and Lnaugae, Thought and Culture ed Paul Henle, U Michigan, 1958 (pb 1965). Whorf is not very clear a lot of the time; the best article in the collection is probably "The relation of habitual thought and behavior to language," though several others are useful, as is Carroll's introduction. Sapir never formulates the hypothesis explicitly, but it is adumbrated in many of his works -- as well as in the works of many predecessors back at least to von Humboldt (several pieces in the Sapir collection that I remember as Language and Culture, but I don't have a copy of, deal with the themes of the hypothesis). Not much has happened in the whole area since the late '50's when linguists got all wrapped up in computation. --part1_b0.15d30882.28569a70_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/2001 4:09:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
ragnarok@pobox.com writes:


   Where can I find Whorf's writings on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis? I'm
interested in reading the original version, and have heard Sapir was
uninvolved.


The standard collection of Whorf's writings is still Language, Thought and
Reality, ed.
John B. Carroll, MIT/Wiley, 1956.  The two stock follow-ups are Language and
Culture, ed Harry Hoijer, U Chicago, 1954, and Lnaugae, Thought and Culture
ed Paul Henle, U Michigan, 1958 (pb 1965).  Whorf is not very clear a lot of
the time; the best article in the collection is probably "The relation of
habitual thought and behavior to language," though several others are useful,
as is Carroll's introduction.  
Sapir never formulates the hypothesis explicitly, but it is adumbrated in
many of his works -- as well as in the works of many predecessors back at
least to von Humboldt (several pieces in the Sapir collection that I remember
as Language and Culture, but I don't have a copy of, deal with the themes of
the hypothesis). Not much has happened in the whole area since the late '50's
when linguists got all wrapped up in computation. --part1_b0.15d30882.28569a70_boundary--