From pycyn@aol.com Thu Jun 07 17:43:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 8 Jun 2001 00:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 81332 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2001 00:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2001 00:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2001 00:43:34 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.b7.f09d230 (3853) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:43:26 EDT Subject: RE:Logfest 2001 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b7.f09d230.285179ae_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7647 --part1_b7.f09d230.285179ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 01:58:23PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:10:01PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > > > > > > > As noted, xod is planning to speak only Lojban at the gathering. > > > > > > > > > .i ju'a lojbo .i zo'o ju'acu'i nuntavla .i ba'a nalbanli ki'u le du'u > > > lizbacru ba'o nalbanzu > > > > .i xu va'i do jinvi le du'u do na bredi le nu do bacru bau po'o la > > lojban. > > > .i ju'ocu'i ni mi certu va'o le nu bacru casnu .i je'e There is an old story about a famous German philosopher who was delivering a lecture in best academic German. After half an hour, a public listener -- i.e., not a student or colleague -- stood up and yelled "A verb! Give us a verb!" I want to yell "Give us a sumti!" xod asserts something is Lojbanic. A safe bet on this net. Maybe, by context, he means Logfest, or even his act of speaking only Lojban at Logfest, either qualifies -- as does his promise to do the latter. He asserts neutrally (??! "mentions"?) and humorously (maybe the humorous refers to the idea of neutral assertion?) that something is an event of talking: the same thing as before? All the candidates above apply, since the rule seems to be that talking only lojban can not be accomplished by keeping absolutely silent. He anticipates that something (the same thing? I suppose so) will be less than grand for the reason that [doesn't seem to be grammatical: {le}?] someone's (his?) experience in uttering has been insufficient. Presumably in uttering Lojban sentences, so probably the second choice is right, but then again, that depends on the interpretation of the puzzling bit. Anyhow, Robin CA clear it up: Do you think your are not ready to utter in Lojban only? xod replies that he is uncertain that n (unspecified) is the amount he is certain under the condition ("if"?) something (else, presumably) is an oral discussion. Well, let us give xod every encouragement in his effort. He is one of the half-dozen most likely to be able to pull it off and someone ought to do it. --part1_b7.f09d230.285179ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 01:58:23PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:10:01PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote:
> > >
> > > > As noted, xod is planning to speak only Lojban at the gathering.
> > >
> > >
> > > .i ju'a lojbo .i zo'o ju'acu'i nuntavla .i ba'a nalbanli ki'u le du'u
> > > lizbacru ba'o nalbanzu
> >
> > .i xu va'i do jinvi le du'u do na bredi le nu do bacru bau po'o la
> > lojban.
>
>
> .i ju'ocu'i ni mi certu va'o le nu bacru casnu

.i je'e

There is an old story about a famous German philosopher who was delivering a
lecture in best academic German. After half an hour, a public listener --
i.e., not a student or colleague -- stood up and yelled "A verb! Give us a
verb!"
I want to yell "Give us a sumti!"
xod asserts something is Lojbanic. A safe bet on this net. Maybe, by
context, he means Logfest, or even his act of speaking only Lojban at
Logfest, either qualifies -- as does his promise to do the latter. He asserts
neutrally (??! "mentions"?) and humorously (maybe the humorous refers to the
idea of neutral assertion?) that something is an event of talking: the same
thing as before? All the candidates above apply, since the rule seems to be
that talking only lojban can not be accomplished by keeping absolutely
silent. He anticipates that something (the same thing? I suppose so) will be
less than grand for the reason that [doesn't seem to be grammatical: {le}?]
someone's (his?) experience in uttering has been insufficient. Presumably in
uttering Lojban sentences, so probably the second choice is right, but then
again, that depends on the interpretation of the puzzling bit.
Anyhow, Robin CA clear it up: Do you think your are not ready to utter in
Lojban only?
xod replies that he is uncertain that n (unspecified) is the amount he is
certain under the condition ("if"?) something (else, presumably) is an oral
discussion.

Well, let us give xod every encouragement in his effort. He is one of the
half-dozen most likely to be able to pull it off and someone ought to do it. --part1_b7.f09d230.285179ae_boundary--