From pycyn@aol.com Wed Jun 13 14:21:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 Jun 2001 21:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 71611 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 21:20:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2001 21:20:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 21:20:41 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.8e.16f2ad5f (3963) for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e.16f2ad5f.28593325@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:20:37 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Attitudinals To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8e.16f2ad5f.28593325_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7940 --part1_8e.16f2ad5f.28593325_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/2001 5:20:37 PM Central Daylight Time, thedward@barsoom.net writes: > You should be aware however that your apostrophes and quotes show up > as question marks (or other wrong characters, or not at all) to those not > using Microsoft software. If you use Microsoft software to write text, > it "helpfully" inserts "smart quotes". Those quotes are only compatible > with Microsoft software. There should be an option to turn them off in > whatever software you are using, alternatively you can run the text > through the demoroniser (http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/); > Thanks. I knew from others that there was a problem but could not spot it on my equipment, of course. I will try to correct it as soon as I can find my ASCII code tables. Incidentally, the notion of a "demoroniser" is one of those things that can prove an eventual block to Lojban if used too publically. Like about 90% of computer users, I use MS stuff, swearing as the need arises (though aol is worse). On the other hand, I do enjoy the usual advantages of more professional looking typing at minimal additional cost -- and I mean I really enjoy it. So, I tend to think that someone who has to work extra for an effect handed me is the real moron. Perhaps the correct name for the program then is "moronizer"? --part1_8e.16f2ad5f.28593325_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/2001 5:20:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
thedward@barsoom.net writes:


You should be aware however that your apostrophes and quotes show up
as question marks (or other wrong characters, or not at all) to those not
using Microsoft software. If you use Microsoft software to write text,
it "helpfully" inserts "smart quotes". Those quotes are only compatible
with Microsoft software. There should be an option to turn them off in
whatever software you are using, alternatively you can run the text
through the demoroniser (http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/);

Thanks.  I knew from others that there was a problem but could not spot it on
my equipment, of course.  I will try to correct it as soon as I can find my
ASCII code tables.
Incidentally, the notion of a "demoroniser" is one of those things that can
prove an eventual block to Lojban if used too publically.  Like about 90% of
computer users, I use MS stuff, swearing as the need arises (though aol is
worse).  On the other hand, I do enjoy the usual advantages of more
professional looking typing at minimal additional cost -- and I mean I really
enjoy it.  So, I tend to think that someone who has to work extra for an
effect handed me is the real moron.  Perhaps the correct name for the program
then is "moronizer"? --part1_8e.16f2ad5f.28593325_boundary--