From pycyn@aol.com Tue Jun 19 19:56:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 20 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 62116 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.8e.17392b9c (4231) for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e.17392b9c.28616ace@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:56:14 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: possible worlds To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8e.17392b9c.28616ace_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 8172 --part1_8e.17392b9c.28616ace_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/19/2001 8:10:08 PM Central Daylight Time, thinkit8@lycos.com writes: > how about this? "if i were rich i'd have a house" goes to > "fau le nu mi ricfu kei mi ponse lo zdani". i don't like using the > UI cmavo to do this either, but i think there are substitutes. > Nice, but what does it have to do with possible worlds? (the answer "nothing" is to its advantage) Is it clearly superior to {ganai mi ricfu gi mi ponse lo zdani}. The latter is, I suppose uninterestingly true, the former appears to be false or of uncertain -- and uncertainly obtainable -- truth value. So, as assertions, the advantage seems to lie with {ganai} form. But if this is something else than an assertion, it does seem to move over into the area of UI: intentions, hopes, and the like. --part1_8e.17392b9c.28616ace_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/19/2001 8:10:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
thinkit8@lycos.com writes:


how about this?  "if i were rich i'd have a house" goes to
"fau le nu mi ricfu kei mi ponse lo zdani".  i don't like using the
UI cmavo to do this either, but i think there are substitutes.


Nice, but what does it have to do with possible worlds? (the answer "nothing"
is to its advantage)  Is it clearly superior to {ganai mi ricfu gi mi ponse
lo zdani}.  The latter is, I suppose uninterestingly true, the former appears
to be false or of uncertain -- and uncertainly obtainable -- truth value.  
So, as assertions, the advantage seems to lie with {ganai} form.  But if this
is something else than an assertion, it does seem to move over into the area
of UI: intentions, hopes, and the like. --part1_8e.17392b9c.28616ace_boundary--