From rob@twcny.rr.com Sat Jun 09 12:08:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 9 Jun 2001 19:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 64659 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 19:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2001 19:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.165) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 19:08:07 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1 [24.92.226.139]) by mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f59J6cW24335 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.95.175.101]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:06:39 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 158o1m-00008x-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:04:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:04:06 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] An approach to attitudinals Message-ID: <20010609150406.A506@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7705 I think perhaps the way to distinguish between attitudinals that make a claim or simply state an emotion should be whether the attitudinals are attached to the sentence or just the brivla. .i le merja'a cu stace .a'o The American-leader is honest {hope}. I hope that the President is honest. .i .a'o le merja'a cu stace {hope} The American-leader is honest. The President is honest, and this gives me hope. I won't get into the truthfulness of the second sentence, considering that {la vybub. ca merja'a} ... -- Rob Speer