From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Wed Jun 13 11:10:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 Jun 2001 18:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 10785 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 18:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jun 2001 18:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 18:07:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.122] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2001 18:07:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:07:02 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Position question: go'i na'i Message-ID: <9g8a46+m57@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010612110209.00e1a960@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1281 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.104.218.72 From: "A.W.T." X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7924 --- In lojban@y..., "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" wrote: > At 04:35 PM 06/12/2001 +0200, Stefan Koch wrote: > >Hi. > > > >I just started studying Lojban. > > > >I have a concerning "fi'a". > > > >What do I have to reply, when the sumti asked is not part of the discussed > >bridi at all? > > > >Is there a cmavo meaning "not part of this bridi" or something like that? > > I'm not sure that anyone has ever used fi'a, but if someone asked me > regarding a sumti not applicable to the bridi, I would reply "na'i", > claiming that it is not relevant. > > The rough English equivalent: > > "I go to the store". > > "What about George?" > > "I didn't say anything about George." Repeating the {na'i} issue in the Book (p.388), I've to raise a question. xu do sisti lezu'o do rapydarxi ledo fetspe na'i go'i (so far no question: {na'i} refers to th whole bridi) go'i na'i - stopped!!!??? For what *grammatical* reason should it be that {na'i} now refers to {sisti} and not the whole bridi or bridi tail or something else within the bridi tail (maybe: {le do fetspe} - What, my wife??? I'm not married to this woman!!!)? I understand that it doesn't refer to x1 (= do), what would be something like {na'i le go'i} or {le go'i na'i} mu'omi'e .aulun.