From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 11 12:01:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 11 Jun 2001 19:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 84094 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 159Ww2-0003IT-00 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:01:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:01:10 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] selma'o Message-ID: <20010611120110.Q2481@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20010611115832.P2481@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010611115832.P2481@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 7815 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:58:32AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:53:54AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > la kreig cusku di'e > > > > > Why do we need selma'o? I've been learning better by ignoring them, > > > > How do you manage to write any grammatical sentence by ignoring > > selma'o? > > Trivially. > > > Words in a given selma'o are all the words that can occupy a given > > position in a sentence. > > I have categories in my head, not selma'o. 'Modals' or 'sumti tcica' is > one category, frex, but I don't think of them as 'members of BAI'. > > > >They probably wouldn't even learn them! They don't seem to serve any > > >real purpose, either. Is there something I'm missing, or was it just > > >"Hey, let's put the cmavo in these groups we don't need for no > > >reason!" > > > > It would be great if you can learn Lojban just from imitation, > > ignoring what selma'o are for, and still use the language correctly, > > it would show that the language is quite robust. > > I've never used them, and I seem to be doing all right. 8) Note, also, that I've never mentioned them in the class I'm teaching. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/