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From: "Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>
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la pier cusku di'e

>I think {le gerku cu bacru fa'a le tricu} means "the dog barks between me 
>and
>the tree", or "the dog barks closer to the tree than I am",

So fa'a only makes sense when the speaker is present in the
situation?

>and {le gerku cu
>bacru to'o le tricu} means "the dog barks far from the tree", maybe on a 
>line
>through me.

And what about {zo'i le tricu} and {ze'o le tricu}?

> >And how do you indicate the orientation of the event?
>
>How about {le gerku cu bacru ve'ifa'a le tricu}?

Hmmm... {ve'afa'a} if the event does not occur in an especially
small space interval.

But {ve'a} tags the interval: {le gerku cu bacru ve'a le purdi}
means that the barking occupies the whole space interval
constituted by the garden. So should we say {le gerku cu bacru
ve'a le purdi fa'a le tricu} to mean that the barking occurs
all over the garden but always towards the tree?

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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