From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Jul 17 23:13:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 18 Jul 2001 06:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 85904 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2001 06:13:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2001 06:13:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Jul 2001 06:13:05 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (210.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.210]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6I6D3Y15047 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010718020607.00c22430@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:17:09 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Looking down: executive summary? In-Reply-To: <01071713523500.01192@rdaneel.moisty.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010717141331.00c2fba0@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010716225659.00c87b60@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010717141331.00c2fba0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 8714 At 01:52 PM 07/17/2001 -0700, Brion L. VIBBER wrote: >Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) skribis: > > Unfortunately, the only BEGINNER I've heard from (someone who has never > > read the refgrammar or tried to speak the language, seems to be finding the > > lessons too steep. > >Hi, new guy here. I've been lurking on the list for a couple weeks, and have >browsed through part of the reference grammar but not enough to, say, parse a >simple sentence. I'd be happy to give the lessons a try and report on their >apparent difficulty if someone would be so kind as to point me to their >hiding place. http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/ The download link to the lessons may be found towards the bottom of the page, in several formats. rtf format is best for reading with Microsoft Word, and there is on line and offline HTML versions as well. Detailed comments to Nick Nicholas ; my interest is in trying to find out if this is the sort of thing we want to send to people who are first expressing interest in Lojban - the book was originally intended to be part of the "Intro to Lojban" book that Nick refers to as the "brochure" on the page above, but it expanded to the point that it has to be a separate book. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org