From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Fri Jul 27 19:16:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 51247 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Jul 2001 02:16:09 -0000 Received: from m54-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com ([62.255.40.54] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15QJOz-0002mY-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:00:26 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] High voodoo: sumti for here-and-now Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:15:11 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 8976 Nick: > This came up in the lessons, although it won't be incorporated in them. > The lessons say you can say "ma tcika ti" for "what time is it?" Is there > a sumti representing "here-and-now" which can substitute for "ti"? "caku" > isn't it, since it contains a sumti tag, and cannot form a default > argument of a selbri. {nau} was suggested, tho I'm not sure how that would work. I would say {ma tcika dei}. IOW, {dei} is your "here-and-now" sumti. --And.