From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Sun Jul 08 19:40:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 02:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 14467 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 02:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 02:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 02:40:28 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f692eRH03022 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:40:27 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Cold In-Reply-To: <01070822111013.01737@neofelis> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Jay Kominek X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 8483 On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Pierre Abbat wrote: > In the health section of the phrasebook, I found this: > mi lenku fi le pevylekybi'a Thats me. I realize its not good, but I wanted to get that one in there, so that someone would comment. :) > This sounds odd and malglico (or at least malbrasmudotco). First, "lenku" has > no third place. Second, the use of "cold" to denote this disease appears to be > peculiar to Germanic languages. Can we come up with a better word - zbitisna, > perhaps? Well, the problem with the 'disease' is that the are about 200 different illnesses which are all colds and act basically the same. Many exist in very different families (or else i'd've used the linnean name). Describing a single symptom as {zbitisna} does, seems both better and worse. It describes an actual symptom, but that doesn't tell the person the illness. Maybe a lujvo which captures the idea of "common simple illness" would be most appropriate. {kaursapybi'a}? Well, that isn't a good way of expressing a cold, but it might be a fairly useful thing to tell someone. (Most of the simple, common illnesses cause a bit of runny nose, fever, sore throat, etc, and there are now OC medicines that list huge long lists of common symptoms which they 'treat'.) - Jay Kominek