From sjhsniffen@crosswinds.net Sat Jul 14 17:20:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: sjhsniffen@crosswinds.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 15 Jul 2001 00:20:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 82664 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2001 00:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2001 00:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.wlv.netzero.net) (209.247.163.57) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jul 2001 00:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23787 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2001 00:20:16 -0000 Received: from pppa50-resalenewjerseynorth9-4r7189.dialinx.net (HELO hppav) (4.54.123.111) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2001 00:20:16 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:20:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Imperative Message-ID: <3B50A988.4170.6F4312@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) From: sjhsniffen@crosswinds.net X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 8577 coi rodo I'm fairly new to lojban and I was wondering if there is a way to use the imperative even when the listener (who you want to do the action) is not part of the action. I.e. ko tavla fo la lojban. means "Speak in lojban!" but how do you say "Make the bird speak in lojban!" mi'e cein. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net