From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Aug 25 19:13:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 26 Aug 2001 02:13:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28485 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2001 02:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2001 02:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Aug 2001 02:13:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jjllambias@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.102] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2001 02:13:20 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:13:17 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Retraction &c, Part 2 Message-ID: <9m9lvt+kqhu@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1582 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 200.69.11.208 From: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10117 la nitcion cusku di'e > .i mi basna ledu'u mi ca melu ga'inai li'u tavlai > .imu'ibo do ki'u da'i sruma ledu'u mi ctuca tavla; ki'u lenu mi pu lifri lo > panra be tu'a do I'm not sure how to interpret that {ki'u le nu}. As it stands it is a reason for {mi ctuca tavla}, if you add a {kei} it would be a reason for {do sruma}. It makes most sense as a reason for {da'i}, but it can't be. > ni'o di'a lenu mi cmima le lojbo cecmu kei mi co'a cmima le bangrtlingana cecmu Is that meant to be {ca le nu mi de'a cmima le lojbo cecmu}? ---- > .i roda poi mi pinka ciska zo'u: mi ciska da mu'i lenu mi na curmydji lenu > leka tolpajvrude cu pe'a nalvasxu catra basti leka pajvrude I vaguely understand that sentence, but I don't really get the {nalvasxu catra}. I'm also not certain whether {tolpajvrude} is {to'e pajvrude} or {tolspaji vrude} (I guess the first). > .i mu'ibo mi cilre le nunciska ca le nuntolcitno; > gi'e cupra ledei tolralci selciska > ki'u lenu mi na se ckaji le kamkakne ca lenu mi cifnu se ckaji -> ckaji > .i mi pu pindi gi'e se jibri lo selfu gi'e vecnu loi xirma gi'e se cuntu > so'i drata jibri > mu'i lenu mi pleji le se dejni be lemi patfu be'o > poi loi zercpa cu dejnygau ku'o > .e lenu mi ji'a cmima le vi cecmu > ca'o lenu le fuzme se jbera befi la cevni cu se vasru lemi xadni I don't understand how {e le nu mi ji'a cmima ...} fits with the rest. It falls in the x2 of pleji, which seems strange, but I can't place it anywhere else. I don't understand what {le fuzme se jbera be fi la cevni} is either. mu'o mi'e xorxes