From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Mon Aug 13 18:16:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 14 Aug 2001 01:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 54004 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2001 01:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Aug 2001 01:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2001 01:16:12 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.40.56]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010814011610.MSLI20588.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:16:10 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] RE: Re: Well I guess you do learn something new everyday... Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:14:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 9567 Xod: > we need fluent people to settle even the formal issues. You may be right, but I don't see why. > People can order coffee, or they can engage in deep theoretical > dialogue on abstract issues. In learning, folks start with the former and > move to the latter. I think I contribute a lot (measured by quality, not just quantity!) to discussions of abstract issues, but I'd struggle to order coffee. (I exaggerate only very slightly; it's a mere fluke that I know the word ckafe.) > Therefore it is critical to build a population of > fluent people that can give Lojban the thousands of person-hours of > dialogue and usage that are required to really settle these issues. The > fact there may become two dialects doesn't change the fact that people > interested in the formal must learn and learn well the colloquial. Why? I'm not trying to start yet another bickerthread; I'm genuinely wondering about your reasoning. --And.