From ragnarok@pobox.com Fri Aug 03 09:55:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 16:55:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 34892 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 16:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 16:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.246) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 16:55:06 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.34] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A78822EB01AE; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:55:36 -0400 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] commands Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:55:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 9120 >> But we still can't do constructions with it like 'let's go.' It's not a >> command to allow us to go, but rather a command directed at multiple people, >> including the speaker. Compare it less to 'allow us to go' and more to >> Spanish 'vamonos' which is in the imperative. >doi mi'o ko klama >doi assigns the value of do, and ko=do with a funny hat on, as I >understand it. Gosh, I'm stuck in English here. That's so totally lojbanic that I never would have thought of it. >> >There are other catagories of cmavo available for experimentation, aren't >> >there? If so, at least use something that resembles the other relevent >> >pro-sumti. (ko'oi or something) >> >> xu'a would function like xu but making commands rather than questions, so it >> sounds like xu. But ko'oi works also. >xu'a makes slightly more sense, then. >However, it leaves who is supposed to do what, unspecified. >xu'a mi'a daxri do >^ Who am I commanding to what? >Is that, "Hold still so we can beat you!"? >or, "Everybody, kick his ass!"? The command is addressed toward 'do,' it's just that not all sentences have do in them. xu'a mi'a darxi do, therefore is the same as mi'a darxi ko, so it's 'be hit by us!' 'Everybody hit him' would be 'xu'a ma'a darxi ko'a' or, as you suggested, 'doi mi'o darxi ko'a'