From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Mon Aug 27 09:15:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 27 Aug 2001 16:15:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 57123 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2001 15:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2001 15:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.41) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 15:56:09 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.42.247]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010827155607.SOGV15984.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:56:07 +0100 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] useless selmaho? (was: RE: mine, thine, hisn, hern, itsn ourn, yourn and theirn Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10161 Jorge: > la and cusku di'e > > >Certainly mo'e is the key one. > > (ni'e can eventually be done as {mo'e LE}.) > > But I'm still not very clear on how to use mo'e. > > According to the Codex, {mo'e re ratcu} is the dimensioned number > "two rats". Then {mo'e re da} must be the number "two things", > and {mo'e da} the number "at least one thing" (not just some > number, which would probably be more useful). And {mo'e lo spaji} > would be the dimensioned number "at least one surprise", not some > surprising number. > > Is that how you understand it? Certainly not. What you say is consistent with the book and with "Two apples plus two apples is four apples", but I understand it in the different and much more useful way, where the sumti already refers to a number, and mo'e simply allows you to use the sumti as a quantifier with its reference essentially unchanged. In case I'm not being clear, I just mean I'm in favour of mo'e da = some number and mo'e lo spaji = a suprising number. --And.