From araizen@newmail.net Fri Aug 31 08:08:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 31 Aug 2001 15:08:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 53541 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 15:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Aug 2001 15:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (212.150.54.158) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 15:05:17 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([62.0.180.216]) by out.newmail.net ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:06:17 +0200 Message-ID: <032e01c13236$e300fc80$8ab5003e@oemcomputer> To: Subject: properties vs. relationships Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:36:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10331 Why is it that there is a property in the x3 of do cnino mi le ka ce'u xunre Couldn't it just as easily be do cnino mi le ka le nu ce'u xunre cu se sanji ce'u Likewise with "ko'a pamoi lei nanmu le ka ce'u clani". Shouldn't it be ko'a pamoi lei nanmu le ka ce'u clamau ce'u Otherwise, how would you get ascending order vs. descending order? Maybe the short forms should be considered abbreviations of the ones with an explicit relationship. mu'o mi'e .adam.