From xod@sixgirls.org Sun Aug 26 14:58:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 26 Aug 2001 21:58:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 81243 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2001 21:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2001 21:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Aug 2001 21:54:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7QLsYV14782 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:54:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Induction Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10146 How do we express logical induction in Lojban? In Cowan's explanation why certain gismu were dropped, he writes didni deduce replaced by lujvo using logji = logic logji seems to refer to the rules that permit deduction, whereas nibli refers to the facts that are deduced. What about induction? In the list of slaughtered gismu, it shows nusna induction x1 induces x2 about x3 from specific facts x4 And in Cowan's reasons nusna induction who knows what "induction" is? ----- The Book reads: "...whereas ``su'a'' suggests some sort of induction or pattern recognition from existing examples (not necessarily rigorous). The opposite point of the scale, ``su'anai'', indicates abduction, or drawing specific conclusions from general premises or patterns." What is the difference between abduction and deduction? Does this means that induction = sucta, and deduction = nibli ~= tolsucta? ----- "It is not enough that an article is new and useful. The Constitution never sanctioned the patenting of gadgets. [...] It was never the object of those laws to grant a monopoly for every trifling device, every shadow of a shade of an idea, which would naturally and spontaneously occur to any skilled mechanic or operator in the ordinary progress of manufactures." -- Supreme Court Justice Douglas, 1950