Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 18 Aug 2001 06:25:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 86023 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2001 06:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Aug 2001 06:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Aug 2001 06:25:58 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.41.57]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010818062556.ELLB20588.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew>; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 07:25:56 +0100 Reply-To: To: "Robin Lee Powell" , "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: RE: [lojban] polyadic connectives Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 07:22:13 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010817203321.A15595@digitalkingdom.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 9753 Content-Length: 1211 Lines: 33 Robin: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 04:22:09AM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > There was some recent discussion, instigated by pc, about more-than-binary > > connectives. For some, like an extended xor, it's easy to see how to > > render them: "exactly one of A, B, C is true". > > Umm, no. > > IIRC, this is even mentioned in the book as an example of one that > doesn't work. Here's the table, assuming left associativity: > > A xor B Result C > T F T T T > T F T F F > T T F F T > T T F T F > F T T F T > F T T T F > F F F T T > F F F F F > > IOW, it's true when exactly one is true and when all are true. Rather > counter-intuitive. In this case it doesn't mean "exactly one of A, B, C is true", which is an extension of "exactly one of A, B is true", which is one way of doing xor. I can't easily work out what your table means, but I imagine it's xor(A, xor(B, C)) or suchlike, which would not count as the sort of connective I was rather incompetently trying to describe. --And.