From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Fri Aug 24 12:44:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 24 Aug 2001 19:44:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 74817 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2001 19:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2001 19:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 19:43:34 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f7OJhYT16678 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:43:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:43:34 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: [new] Beginners' mailing list and scheduled IRC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10056 Following a brief discussion from the Wiki[1] and some conclusions[2] I've come to on my own, I've created a new mailing list, intended to be an easier forum for beginners to pose questions. This is not meant to take even a single message of traffic away from this list[3], or jbosnu. Instead, it should be a forum for those people who join this mailing list, and leave the next day because they got 50 messages while they went to the restroom. And for the people who don't send anything to the list, because they're afraid it will start something which looks like a flame war to the uninitiated. (Of course, when they don't get their questions answered, they leave because they can never start figuring out whats going on, and thus rapidly become bored of 20+ messages a day.) Further, it should be a place that makes an attempt to be just plain nice and friendly. (99.9% of the time, 99.9% of the people here are friendly, but the flare ups seem to coincide with the list membership going down ever so slightly.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- SO: For people who want to subscribe; either because they want/need help or to ask questions, or because they'd like to be able to help, the web page to join up at is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban-beginners/join --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alllso, I'm thinking of planning scheduled IRC events for help sessions. (Nothing more complex than "I guarantee I will be in #lojban on server blah at 9pm eastern time this saturday for one hour, and will remain completely attentive for The Whole Time or else you get your money back.") --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1]: http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?Beginning%20Mailing%20List [2]: The number of beginners I've seen asking questions on the mailing list has dropped in the year since I've joined, while overall traffic has easily doubled. [3]: Not that it matters. August 2001 will easily have more than 1000 messages, making that single month 1/10th of all traffic on the current mailing list. (And making it the most active month ever.) - Jay Kominek Plus =C3=A7a change, plus c'est la m=C3=AAme chose