From xod@sixgirls.org Tue Aug 14 20:20:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 15 Aug 2001 03:20:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 97156 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 03:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2001 03:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 03:20:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7F3KHj07957 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:20:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Chomskyan universals and Lojban In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 9640 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Jay Kominek wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, And Rosta wrote: > > > * Natlang syntax doesn't have terminators (AFAIK) > > They'd probably be significantly less ambiguous if they did. "unquote" is a terminator. Are you sure there are no more? > > > > * SE > > > > > > Sort of unfair to list it as its own thing, as its merely a side effect of > > > the place structure. > > > > The selmaho SE, both because it swaps x1 and x2/3/4/5/... and because it's > > recursive. > > I'm aware of selma'o SE. > > And whats recursive about SE cmavo? (I'm familiar with recursion in all of > its forms as a programming technique, and none of them are even remotely > relevent.) Yes, unfair to mention SE, fair to mention place structures. Or are there any langs with them? What about this Thompson language, spoken by ~500 Canadian Native Americans, said to be the only language that's a little similar to Lojban in structure? Was that a joke? I can find no information about that language except its existence, using the net. Since learning the balbau I have noticed that English uses modals all the time. > > I don't think it will, but it would become a different language if > > it became a natlang. I suppose that if unnatural features survived > > unchanged into a lojban creole, then there would be some very > > significant conclusions to be drawn. > > Well, we'll see what happens when some Lojbanists has kids. :) More than kids, the house in which they raised must be an all-Lojban house (best), or second best is that one parent always uses Lojban, while the other parent uses something else. ----- "I have never been active in politics or in any act against occupation, but the way the soldiers killed Mizyed has filled me with hatred and anger. Now I'm ready to carry out a suicide attack inside Israel," one of the witnesses said.