From xod@sixgirls.org Sat Aug 04 16:24:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 4 Aug 2001 23:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27471 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2001 23:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Aug 2001 23:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Aug 2001 23:24:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f74NOYx10560 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:24:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] ka + makau (was: ce'u (was: vliju'a In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 9176 On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la xod cusku di'e > > >Why does makau have any meaning away from du'u? > > > >du'u do prami makau > >The identity of the thing you love > > No, a du'u is not an identity! A du'u is a proposition. Think > of a du'u with a makau as a proposition in which one of the > terms is there but hidden from view. The same with ka + makau, > a property in which one of the terms is there but hidden from view. What is being proposed by this? What fact are you stating with du'u do prami makau I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by "hidden from view". > > >How about: > >da poi slabu mi zo'u da klama le zarci > > Knowing (djuno) who goes to the store does not mean the same as > knowing (se slabu) a person who happens to go to the store. > > mi djuno le du'u la djan noi mi ke'a na se slabu cu klama le zarci > "I know that John, whom I don't know, goes to the store." You are very correct. However selsau lu'e da is different from selsau da. ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!