From pycyn@aol.com Fri Sep 07 01:32:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 08:32:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17613 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 08:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 08:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 08:32:54 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.115.453ffe2 (4012) for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <115.453ffe2.28c9e031@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:32:49 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Another stab at a Record on ce'u To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_115.453ffe2.28c9e031_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10521 --part1_115.453ffe2.28c9e031_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/6/2001 7:58:26 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes: > > I think that no concept of date rape is a concept of rape -- they > > are distinct concepts. Rather, every *event* of date rape is an > > event of rape: ro nu -daterape kei nu -rape. > > Certainly life will be simpler if we agree with you (because what > you say is sane, I mean). > But odd: is the connection between the two event cartegories necessary? could there be a date-rape that is not a rape? If not, then there has to be a conceptual connection as well: they may be distinct concepts and yet one be a sub concept of the other. --part1_115.453ffe2.28c9e031_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/6/2001 7:58:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes:


> I think that no concept of date rape is a concept of rape -- they
> are distinct concepts.  Rather, every *event* of date rape is an
> event of rape: ro nu -daterape kei nu -rape.

Certainly life will be simpler if we agree with you (because what
you say is sane, I mean).


But odd: is the connection between the two event cartegories necessary?  
could there be a date-rape that is not a rape?  If not, then there has to be
a conceptual connection as well: they may be distinct concepts and yet one be
a sub concept of the other. --part1_115.453ffe2.28c9e031_boundary--